NO to Evander Kane! Great points about the writers and reporters throwing out the rumors! Speaking of which, Elliott Friedman said on his podcast this AM that he believes Seguin is not coming back at all this year....I can see Seguin having the internal battle between "I'm going to kick this injuries' ass and make it back for playoffs" and " if I stay out, I can recover fully and the team has a better chance to get some good talent before the trade deadline"...or, maybe I'm projecting lol
Kane was such a huge liability for the Oilers in the playoffs last year, and not in the “guy who didn’t play all season and has to get back up to speed” way (although that too).But he doesn’t seem to process the game at an elite level anymore AND he’s susceptible to taking all of the dumb penalties possible from roughing to poor stick management.
AND it feels that DAL-VAN would be poor trading partners? Maybe that’s wishful thinking/desperate hope.
It’s hard to think Gulutzan would want him on this Stars team- unless the mindset is Gulutzan wants him because Gulutzan’s tactics truly are just “be physical “ and I maybe naively think he’s got more in the brainpan than just that.
Re: Kane. I suspect it's something as simple as 'here's a guy I know, therefore he might be helpful.' Dig deep into a lot of trades, and familiarity is a common principle. For better or worse.
Jim Nill needs to save Seguin from himself and just put him on the shelf for this year . The last thing we need is him coming back for the play offs and getting injured again and missing a bunch of next season . When he is fit he is still good but is the Anthony Davis of the stars , high salary limited availability . This team just doesn’t feel like a cup winner .
I generally agree based on the Central, but I'm willing to see what Nill can cook this week because if he does and the team gets blitzed inside the first round, then my real concern if Gulutzan, who I still have some reservations about.
Not directly on topic, but close enough. I just read the most recent piece of Shapiro in D Magazine and here is a quote from a NHL scout regarding Bunting:
“That feels like a Jim Nill trade to me,” one scout said. “He’s a good 200-foot guy. You can probably put him on one of those top two lines to open up some other things.”
Seems to me that after reading your article on Bunting, there is absolutely no 200-foot player here. It makes you wonder if these scouts are even aware of stats/number/analysis when looking at a player.
If I was a NHL GM, I would make sure that the scouts I pay would look at other things than their own "gut feeling" and/or the "reputation" and "noise" around a player.
Because a player is feisty and physical does not mean he is automaticaly good defensively.
The lack of push back and/or comment of Shapiro was somewhat disapointing.
I swear every time I hear a scout's thoughts, I feel like we're watching two different games. I suspect - and we see this a lot elsewhere - scouts, who likely don't watch a ton of pro hockey (in my interview with Dennis Holland, he really made it sound like anything on the pro side they leave up to the pro scouts) rely on either old profiles, or traditional notions of what makes a '200-ft guy' as you already well articulated. And I wouldn't be too hard on Sean. I haven't had a chance to read his piece yet, but he's pretty good at being diplomatic yet discerning at the same time. I suspect the point of the piece was to highlight what the league thinks about the road map for Dallas ahead of the deadline rather than the road map they SHOULD adopt. Two different pieces.
This is totally fair. I've been in a pissy mood for a good month and some change because of house drama, so I'll cop to this and agree that it is in poor taste.
I just don't like being lied to. Trade for Ceci? Okay. Put him in the top four and tell me he's good because he plays tough minutes? No. Hell no. I'm not here to write what's already written in a press release. There are better ways to articular that disagreement, but if I feel like Dallas is trading for a substandard player, then that should and will be written.
NO to Evander Kane! Great points about the writers and reporters throwing out the rumors! Speaking of which, Elliott Friedman said on his podcast this AM that he believes Seguin is not coming back at all this year....I can see Seguin having the internal battle between "I'm going to kick this injuries' ass and make it back for playoffs" and " if I stay out, I can recover fully and the team has a better chance to get some good talent before the trade deadline"...or, maybe I'm projecting lol
Kane was such a huge liability for the Oilers in the playoffs last year, and not in the “guy who didn’t play all season and has to get back up to speed” way (although that too).But he doesn’t seem to process the game at an elite level anymore AND he’s susceptible to taking all of the dumb penalties possible from roughing to poor stick management.
AND it feels that DAL-VAN would be poor trading partners? Maybe that’s wishful thinking/desperate hope.
It’s hard to think Gulutzan would want him on this Stars team- unless the mindset is Gulutzan wants him because Gulutzan’s tactics truly are just “be physical “ and I maybe naively think he’s got more in the brainpan than just that.
Re: Kane. I suspect it's something as simple as 'here's a guy I know, therefore he might be helpful.' Dig deep into a lot of trades, and familiarity is a common principle. For better or worse.
Jim Nill needs to save Seguin from himself and just put him on the shelf for this year . The last thing we need is him coming back for the play offs and getting injured again and missing a bunch of next season . When he is fit he is still good but is the Anthony Davis of the stars , high salary limited availability . This team just doesn’t feel like a cup winner .
I generally agree based on the Central, but I'm willing to see what Nill can cook this week because if he does and the team gets blitzed inside the first round, then my real concern if Gulutzan, who I still have some reservations about.
Not directly on topic, but close enough. I just read the most recent piece of Shapiro in D Magazine and here is a quote from a NHL scout regarding Bunting:
“That feels like a Jim Nill trade to me,” one scout said. “He’s a good 200-foot guy. You can probably put him on one of those top two lines to open up some other things.”
Seems to me that after reading your article on Bunting, there is absolutely no 200-foot player here. It makes you wonder if these scouts are even aware of stats/number/analysis when looking at a player.
If I was a NHL GM, I would make sure that the scouts I pay would look at other things than their own "gut feeling" and/or the "reputation" and "noise" around a player.
Because a player is feisty and physical does not mean he is automaticaly good defensively.
The lack of push back and/or comment of Shapiro was somewhat disapointing.
I swear every time I hear a scout's thoughts, I feel like we're watching two different games. I suspect - and we see this a lot elsewhere - scouts, who likely don't watch a ton of pro hockey (in my interview with Dennis Holland, he really made it sound like anything on the pro side they leave up to the pro scouts) rely on either old profiles, or traditional notions of what makes a '200-ft guy' as you already well articulated. And I wouldn't be too hard on Sean. I haven't had a chance to read his piece yet, but he's pretty good at being diplomatic yet discerning at the same time. I suspect the point of the piece was to highlight what the league thinks about the road map for Dallas ahead of the deadline rather than the road map they SHOULD adopt. Two different pieces.
The continuing snarky comments about Codi Ceci are off putting.
Ceci was and is a solid third pair Dman. That is not how he was deployed last year by the Stars.
This is totally fair. I've been in a pissy mood for a good month and some change because of house drama, so I'll cop to this and agree that it is in poor taste.
I just don't like being lied to. Trade for Ceci? Okay. Put him in the top four and tell me he's good because he plays tough minutes? No. Hell no. I'm not here to write what's already written in a press release. There are better ways to articular that disagreement, but if I feel like Dallas is trading for a substandard player, then that should and will be written.
I'm team Tolvanen (Schwartz would be cool, too)! In exchange, we can give Seattle their soul we took from them after Wednesday's beat down.
I mean yea, but....Evangelista.[/Insert Wolverin in bed meme]
Glad they did the right thing with Seguin still doesn’t mean any add ons make us the team .